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Who Gets Busted?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:59 pm
by Cyber_Specter
let's pose this question as the most viable situation you might face.

You have a broadband connection with a dynamic ip, you use a wireless router for you home network, and lets say you are stupid enough to not put any security on it(or some lovely airhacker grabs the signal by breaking in)

All the sudden you get warning from your isp provider that you are illegally downloading and viewing questionable materials.

then later you get BUSTED, by the damn feds, movie people or whoever for copyright infringement.

Who Gets Busted, and how do they determine it. Does having a unsecured wireless network give you Plausible Deniability?

how do they prove it was you not your neighbor or a passerby on a cellphone.

-- Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:09 pm --

and on the other side of that lets say that the person who has the network gets busted for like stealing company files or child porn couldn't he just pin it on anybody who used his network?

Re: Who Gets Busted?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:50 pm
by hellow533
Cyber_Specter wrote:let's pose this question as the most viable situation you might face.

You have a broadband connection with a dynamic ip, you use a wireless router for you home network, and lets say you are stupid enough to not put any security on it(or some lovely airhacker grabs the signal by breaking in)

All the sudden you get warning from your isp provider that you are illegally downloading and viewing questionable materials.

then later you get BUSTED, by the damn feds, movie people or whoever for copyright infringement.

Who Gets Busted, and how do they determine it. Does having a unsecured wireless network give you Plausible Deniability?

how do they prove it was you not your neighbor or a passerby on a cellphone.

-- Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:09 pm --

and on the other side of that lets say that the person who has the network gets busted for like stealing company files or child porn couldn't he just pin it on anybody who used his network?

You should be able to see who connects to your router, and their MAC address. There are many many ways you could protect yourself though.

1: Make it password protected, most people aren't smart enough to get past that step.
2: Enable a MAC address filter that only allows certain MAC addresses to connect.
3: Put safety words like Child, Kiddie, Porn, or other words so they can't search for child porn. *that's just an example*
There are many many more, and I'm sure another person will tell you what those are.

Re: Who Gets Busted?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:55 pm
by LoGiCaL__
let's pose this question as the most viable situation you might face.

You have a broadband connection with a dynamic ip, you use a wireless router for you home network, and lets say you are stupid enough to not put any security on it(or some lovely airhacker grabs the signal by breaking in)

All the sudden you get warning from your isp provider that you are illegally downloading and viewing questionable materials.

then later you get BUSTED, by the damn feds, movie people or whoever for copyright infringement.

Who Gets Busted, and how do they determine it. Does having a unsecured wireless network give you Plausible Deniability?

how do they prove it was you not your neighbor or a passerby on a cellphone.

-- Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:09 pm --

and on the other side of that lets say that the person who has the network gets busted for like stealing company files or child porn couldn't he just pin it on anybody who used his network?


If the person who owns the wireless network can't prove or I would guess find out who it is, then they get blamed for it. They are the last point of contact in which they can be traced backed to, unless they have proof that says otherwise. I recently read an article similar to this. This isn't the exact one, but close enough. Just google and find out for your self.

http://www.geek.com/articles/news/man-wrongly-accused-of-child-porn-learns-to-password-protect-wifi-the-hard-way-20110426/

If it's not a good enough reason to secure your wireless network, I don't know what is.

-- Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:05 pm --

Here's the original article I read.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/24/ny-child-pornography-case-underscores-wi-fi-privacy-dangers/

Re: Who Gets Busted?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:46 pm
by VPR3
The person snooping into your network gets busted. Routers store activity in logs that are easily viewable if you know what your doing and what your looking for. So simply your ip and where your going are stored and easily found by Mr. FBI. Plus odds are this person is going to have this questionable material stored on their system so they get busted. But if you know your doing something questionable you should always take counter-measures.

Re: Who Gets Busted?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:21 pm
by LoGiCaL__
VPR3 wrote:The person snooping into your network gets busted. Routers store activity in logs that are easily viewable if you know what your doing and what your looking for. So simply your ip and where your going are stored and easily found by Mr. FBI. Plus odds are this person is going to have this questionable material stored on their system so they get busted. But if you know your doing something questionable you should always take counter-measures


Luckily for this guy that is what happened. Could you imagine if it was just some random who didn't reside in the area and did that, then just uploaded the material to a thumb drive or something of the like or just used someone's laptop that wasn't their own. This guy would be screwed to say the least. All in all, a wireless network should always be secured if you own it.

Re: Who Gets Busted?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:53 am
by memoric
It took them 3 days to determine that he wasn't guilty? :shock: